[Af_List] indie fashion zombies

[stephen]

Andrew Scott writes:
> [1,251 words]

And to be honest, I didn't follow all of it, but I 
should be the last person to complain about unfocused, 
ill-tempered tirades, eh.

I feel a bit weird having started all this -- just 
reporting a news item, never meant as an endorsement 
for Shocking Pinks OR Pitchfork, both of which I can 
happily leave. (Actually, thx to an ex-gf I can't fckn 
stand Shocking Pinks, but whatever).

FWIW,
> Guess what - I dance too!!  Don't think I mentioned 
> anything about being anti-dance did I?

Don't bleeve I sed you did, just responding to "boring 
trendy music for indie fashion zombies".

> I'm not sniping at you

Realise that, but thx

> I'm all for a 'local boy makes good' story, but I'm 
> just not so sure I think its as interesting if the 
> story is 'local boy makes good playing really really 
> really average music'.

That we could all have our own news channel which only
told us the stories we wanted to hear about the bands we
rate and so on, eh.

So I'm guessing you read my original post as the 
equivalent of:

 "Carly Binding signed to Table of the Elements, gets 
  10/10 in Ptolemaic Terrascope magazine"

..and saw red?  I would've too :)

> pitchfork rate it highly and their opinion somehow 
> matters much more than it should?

For better or worse, their opinion definitely matters 
much more than it should.


> Tim:
>> This ain't the first time he's been reviewed
>> positively by Pitchfork, check the review for 
>> the Shocking Pinks debut 2004 release 'Dance 
>> The Dance Electric' on Chch label Pinacolada 
>> Records
>
>Character assassination aside, why the jingoistic 
>freak out?  

Actually thought it was a little rank that Tim, who 
unless I am mistaken runs Pinacolada Records, didn't 
mention that in his post, and referred to his own label
in the 3rd person, as it were, but that's another 
matter.


> Please feel free to mark my words when I say that 
> all this shit will horribly dated in 20, nay 10, 
> nay 5 years.  History will not smile kindly on it 
> (but it will continue to smile kindly on the bands 
> they ripped off).

I'll take your money.  It'll only be the music scholars
that will deliberately distinguish between "LCD, The 
Rapture, !!!" and Gang of 4, Josef K, Scritti Politti.
To everyone else it'll just be another track on their
iPod's "dance-punk" playlist.  And "ripped off" is harsh, 
it's how popular music works, and always has done.  


AND:
> Are we really such a insecure nation that calling a 
> spade a spade is seen as cultural treachery? 

I could give you 25,000 words on this and your following
related points but I can't now, my insomnia won't last 
long enough and I'll end up running out of steam.  

Excellent observations though, class please discuss.

[stephen clover::::www.dorkinglabs.com/seht.php]